richard terry wrote:
Could anyone point me in a direction of all the wxPython constants in one spot
ie things like wxSIMPLE_BORDER etc, but also containing all the colour
constants etc.
I don't think there is such a list, and if there were, it would probably
be such a huge conglomeration of stuff, that it wouldn't be useful. The
constants you refer to are (mostly) all in the wxWindows docs, but in
the places where they are relevant. For example, wxSIMPLE_BORDER is in
the list of window styles enumerated in the page on wxWindow. The color
constants are listed in the page on wxColourDataBase.
It sounds like you may be using linux, so I can suggest one way to help
with the wxWindows docs. I have the html version on may machine, and If
I cd to the dor that has all the html pages, I can grep for a work I am
looking for in the docs, and then go look at that page in a browser (I
use KDE, so I can use the file manager, it's pretty nice) greo is a very
useful and powerful tool. It can alos be pretty complex, but is easy to
use in it's simplest form:
grep wxSIMPLE_BORDER *.htm
is how I found the page with the window styles in it.
By way of explanation, I'm forcing myself finally to learn a little
programming to help out in the gnuMed project (www.gnumed.org). I've very
little time because I run a busy full time (70+ hours a week) general
practice. I've tried previously and failed abysmally.
I think you'll just have to accept that there is a lot to learn. If you
go to:
http://wiki.wxpython.org/index.cgi/How_20to_20Learn_20wxPython
you'll see that is is suggested that you learn a fair bit about Python
before trying to work with wxPython. This can be kind of frustrating,
but, as they say, you have to learn to crawl before you can walk. It
sounds like you are trying to learn: programming, the Python language,
and the wxPython toolkit, all in one step. Frankly there is a lot to
learn, and it's only so fast that you can learn it. If you really are
new to programming, make sure to go through one of the docs intended for
thoise new to programming. Alan Guald's book is pretty good
(Learning to program), and there are others.
Also, it sounds like you are new to Linux, so that may be another thing
you are learning. Linux, however is an excelent platform for
programming, as it includes a lot of tools designed to make programming
easy. On Window, you will find that you need to go out and find all
sorts of tools that are just there in Linux (grep being one of them!)
learn to use those command line tools, it's worth it.
Hence I'm putting out a request for someone who would be prepared to be a
mentor for my learning via email. i.e. someone who can shortcut my many
wasted hours trying to find simple info like the above, or help with simple
syntax where I can't understand the docs., where the question is too basic to
fire at the list, or where I may need several reply emails to understand.
I guess the thing I've noticed very much about LINUX which is also
exemplified on this list, is that there is very little understanding by those
who know, of the huge learning curve for programming for a non-programmer to
overcome before they can get the gist of it and be self supportive. Reading
tutorials is one thing, but in practice when you try and do something its a
huge struggle.
It can be a struggle, but for the most part the struggle itself is
instructive. While it may take a while to find the answer to a seemingly
simple question, while you are looking, youare learning how to read man
pages, where your configuratin files are, how to read the wxWindows
docs, where to find good info on the net, whatever. While people
complain a lot about "steep" learning curves, I have found that many
things with such steep learning curves can result if very high
productivity onoced you ahve climbed that curve. Linux is an excellent
example of this. While it took me a couple of years to get really
productive on Linux, I am now far more productive using it thqt I am
with my mac, which I have been using every day for over three years. The
tools I need simple aren't there.
That being said, it can be very frustrating to be all alone in your
struggle. When I was learning Linux, I had a few colleuges that were
learning along with me, and we helped each other figure things out. That
is what I suggest you do; look for others at a similar , or slightly
higher state of learning. Someone who is also learning stands to gain by
helping you figure out your problem. Someone who has this stuff down
cold is simply doing you a favor. We are all pretty helpful here, but
there is a limit. Make sure to look on the Python Tutor list, and I'd
look to others in the gnumed prject, as they also have an interest in
helping you out and getting you to a point where you can contribute.
Anyway, I hope some kind soul can help. If so, please email me privately.
Feel free so send me questions as you have them, if you send too many,
I'll simply stop answering them!
-Chris
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