Phoenix and Linux repositories

Hi,
I searched around a bit, but I think this is a newish question:

Is Phoenix ready to be on the formal .deb/.rpm repos for Linux? What’s the ETA, etc?

I could move my little app up to Python 3 if it were. I am a little worried that Python 2.7 is soon to be dropped and I’ll be somewhat stuck.

I’ll totally understand if it’s not on the horizon. Thankful that you all keep hacking on it. Good luck!
Thanks,
Donn
(Fonty Python.)

I am planning to package Phoenix for Fedora (and probably Debian too) but I am waiting for the first official non-beta release. This seems like it may be soon as Robin has moved to "rc" designations for the beta releases.

Scott

···

On Thu, 9 Nov 2017, /d wrote:

Hi,
I searched around a bit, but I think this is a newish question:

Is Phoenix ready to be on the formal .deb/.rpm repos for Linux? What's the
ETA, etc?

I could move my little app up to Python 3 if it were. I am a little worried
that Python 2.7 is soon to be dropped and I'll be somewhat stuck.

I'll totally understand if it's not on the horizon. Thankful that you all
keep hacking on it. Good luck!
Thanks,
Donn
(Fonty Python.)

Magic! I’ll poke my head out again early next year and look around.

Thanks, and all the best,

/d

···

On 9 November 2017 at 16:08, Scott Talbert swt@techie.net wrote:

I am planning to package Phoenix for Fedora (and probably Debian too) but I am waiting for the first official non-beta release. This seems like it may be soon as Robin has moved to “rc” designations for the beta releases.

You'd be my hero for providing DEBs.

They are sorely needed for bringing GNUmed (http://www.gnumed.de)
into the age of Python3/wxP4.

Karsten

···

On Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 09:08:25AM -0500, Scott Talbert wrote:

I searched around a bit, but I think this is a newish question:

Is Phoenix ready to be on the formal .deb/.rpm repos for Linux? What's the
ETA, etc?

I am planning to package Phoenix for Fedora (and probably Debian too) but I
am waiting for the first official non-beta release.

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A January bump for the news about wxPython 4 on Linux repos. Is there a chance?

I worry because Python 2 is going to be dead very soon and decision have to be made this year about continuing to use wxPython, or switching to something else like (urgh…) python-gobject. (I only urgh it because of the learning curve I’m facing. It might be okay, I dunno.)

Perhaps some kind of beta release on Launchpad as a PPA (I don’t know what the rpm version of that is)?

Hoping for the best,

/d

···

On 9 November 2017 at 16:08, Scott Talbert swt@techie.net wrote:

On Thu, 9 Nov 2017, /d wrote:

Hi,

I searched around a bit, but I think this is a newish question:

Is Phoenix ready to be on the formal .deb/.rpm repos for Linux? What’s the

ETA, etc?

I could move my little app up to Python 3 if it were. I am a little worried

that Python 2.7 is soon to be dropped and I’ll be somewhat stuck.

I’ll totally understand if it’s not on the horizon. Thankful that you all

keep hacking on it. Good luck!

Thanks,

Donn

(Fonty Python.)

I am planning to package Phoenix for Fedora (and probably Debian too) but I am waiting for the first official non-beta release. This seems like it may be soon as Robin has moved to “rc” designations for the beta releases.

Scott

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Donn Ingle wrote:

A January bump for the news about wxPython 4 on Linux repos. Is there
a chance?

I worry because Python 2 is going to be dead very soon...

I doubt it. Rumors of Python 2's demise have been reported for the
entire 10 years of Python 3's existence. I certainly don't see any
slacking off in Python 2 development. It is a fascinating study, and it
shows just how useful and solid Python 2 was.

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Its offcial now, Python 2 EOL is 2020: https://pythonclock.org/

···

2018-01-08 12:08 GMT-05:00 Tim Roberts timr@probo.com:

Donn Ingle wrote:

A January bump for the news about wxPython 4 on Linux repos. Is there

a chance?

I worry because Python 2 is going to be dead very soon…

I doubt it. Rumors of Python 2’s demise have been reported for the

entire 10 years of Python 3’s existence. I certainly don’t see any

slacking off in Python 2 development. It is a fascinating study, and it

shows just how useful and solid Python 2 was.

Tim Roberts, timr@probo.com

Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

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You can install Phoenix from Pip now, you dont need any prebuild package.

···

2018-01-08 4:21 GMT-05:00 Donn Ingle donn.ingle@gmail.com:

A January bump for the news about wxPython 4 on Linux repos. Is there a chance?

I worry because Python 2 is going to be dead very soon and decision have to be made this year about continuing to use wxPython, or switching to something else like (urgh…) python-gobject. (I only urgh it because of the learning curve I’m facing. It might be okay, I dunno.)

Perhaps some kind of beta release on Launchpad as a PPA (I don’t know what the rpm version of that is)?

Hoping for the best,

/d

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On 9 November 2017 at 16:08, Scott Talbert swt@techie.net wrote:

Hi,

I searched around a bit, but I think this is a newish question:

Is Phoenix ready to be on the formal .deb/.rpm repos for Linux? What’s the

ETA, etc?

I could move my little app up to Python 3 if it were. I am a little worried

that Python 2.7 is soon to be dropped and I’ll be somewhat stuck.

I’ll totally understand if it’s not on the horizon. Thankful that you all

keep hacking on it. Good luck!

Thanks,

Donn

(Fonty Python.)
On Thu, 9 Nov 2017, /d wrote:

I am planning to package Phoenix for Fedora (and probably Debian too) but I am waiting for the first official non-beta release. This seems like it may be soon as Robin has moved to “rc” designations for the beta releases.

Scott

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When doing so, please be aware that Pip does not find the Linux binaries by default and tries to build from source instead.
See the section "Yes, we have Linux Wheels. Sort of." on the download page.

Regards,

Dietmar

···

On 1/8/2018 6:28 PM, Mario Lacunza wrote:

You can install Phoenix from Pip now, you dont need any prebuild package.

I looked at that pythonclock.org link, but there is no indication it is an official site.

···

2018-01-08 12:08 GMT-05:00 Tim Roberts timr@probo.com:

Donn Ingle wrote:

A January bump for the news about wxPython 4 on Linux repos. Is there

a chance?

I worry because Python 2 is going to be dead very soon…

I doubt it. Rumors of Python 2’s demise have been reported for the

entire 10 years of Python 3’s existence. I certainly don’t see any

slacking off in Python 2 development. It is a fascinating study, and it

shows just how useful and solid Python 2 was.

Tim Roberts, timr@probo.com

Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

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The answer is pretty much the same as before. I'm still waiting on an official release to move forward with official packaging.

I can, however, make a PPA though, so I'll work on that.

I have had a COPR (Fedora PPA-like repository) for quite some time with RPMs:
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/swt2c/wxPython-Phoenix/

···

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018, Donn Ingle wrote:

A January bump for the news about wxPython 4 on Linux repos. Is there a
chance?

I worry because Python 2 is going to be dead very soon and decision have to
be made this year about continuing to use wxPython, or switching to
something else like (urgh..) python-gobject. (I only urgh it because of the
learning curve I'm facing. It might be okay, I dunno.)

Perhaps some kind of beta release on Launchpad as a PPA (I don't know what
the rpm version of that is)?

Hoping for the best,
/d

On 9 November 2017 at 16:08, Scott Talbert <swt@techie.net> wrote:
      On Thu, 9 Nov 2017, /d wrote:

            Hi,
             I searched around a bit, but I think this is a
            newish question:

            Is Phoenix ready to be on the formal .deb/.rpm repos
            for Linux? What's the
            ETA, etc?

            I could move my little app up to Python 3 if it
            were. I am a little worried
            that Python 2.7 is soon to be dropped and I'll be
            somewhat stuck.

            I'll totally understand if it's not on the horizon.
            Thankful that you all
            keep hacking on it. Good luck!
            Thanks,
            Donn
            (Fonty Python.)

      I am planning to package Phoenix for Fedora (and probably Debian
      too) but I am waiting for the first official non-beta release.
      This seems like it may be soon as Robin has moved to "rc"
      designations for the beta releases.

      Scott

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Yes, please !! :slight_smile:

Karsten

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On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 11:51:47PM -0500, Scott Talbert wrote:

The answer is pretty much the same as before. I'm still waiting on an
official release to move forward with official packaging.

I can, however, make a PPA though, so I'll work on that.

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Scott,

That would be grand!

I am sure it will be good to start facing the teething troubles of the process sooner than later.

(I shall have to figure out how to keep both versions apart somehow as I start the 3 → 4 conversion. Eek!)

Do you have any news from Robin et al. re a release date? (Should I join the dev list instead and ask there?)

···

Thanks,

/d

On 9 January 2018 at 06:51, Scott Talbert swt@techie.net wrote:

The answer is pretty much the same as before. I’m still waiting on an official release to move forward with official packaging.

I can, however, make a PPA though, so I’ll work on that.

I have had a COPR (Fedora PPA-like repository) for quite some time with RPMs:

https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/swt2c/wxPython-Phoenix/

On Mon, 8 Jan 2018, Donn Ingle wrote:

A January bump for the news about wxPython 4 on Linux repos. Is there a

chance?

I worry because Python 2 is going to be dead very soon and decision have to

be made this year about continuing to use wxPython, or switching to

something else like (urgh…) python-gobject. (I only urgh it because of the

learning curve I’m facing. It might be okay, I dunno.)

Perhaps some kind of beta release on Launchpad as a PPA (I don’t know what

the rpm version of that is)?

Hoping for the best,

/d

On 9 November 2017 at 16:08, Scott Talbert swt@techie.net wrote:

  On Thu, 9 Nov 2017, /d wrote:



        Hi,

         I searched around a bit, but I think this is a

        newish question:



        Is Phoenix ready to be on the formal .deb/.rpm repos

        for Linux? What's the

        ETA, etc?



        I could move my little app up to Python 3 if it

        were. I am a little worried

        that Python 2.7 is soon to be dropped and I'll be

        somewhat stuck.



        I'll totally understand if it's not on the horizon.

        Thankful that you all

        keep hacking on it. Good luck!

        Thanks,

        Donn

        (Fonty Python.)





  I am planning to package Phoenix for Fedora (and probably Debian

  too) but I am waiting for the first official non-beta release. 

  This seems like it may be soon as Robin has moved to "rc"

  designations for the beta releases.



  Scott



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I’ve visited that page ( https://wxpython.org/pages/downloads/ ) and shied-away from an install for a few reasons: I don’t want to damage wxPy 3.x as it’s installed now; and the instructions confuse me. (I don’t know what manylinux1 is, etc.)

I figured if I was confused by it, then users of my app would not be enthusiastic either.

This makes me wonder at the best ways to start a 3.x → 4.x upgrade of my app. I’ll start a new thread.

Thanks,

/d

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On 8 January 2018 at 20:56, Dietmar Schwertberger maillist@schwertberger.de wrote:

You can install Phoenix from Pip now, you dont need any prebuild package.
On 1/8/2018 6:28 PM, Mario Lacunza wrote:

When doing so, please be aware that Pip does not find the Linux binaries by default and tries to build from source instead.

See the section “Yes, we have Linux Wheels. Sort of.” on the download page.

Regards,

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What about click in the first link in that page?

https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0373/#id2

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El 8 ene. 2018 23:06, “Rufus Smith” rufusvsmith@gmail.com escribió:

I looked at that pythonclock.org link, but there is no indication it is an official site.

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Its offcial now, Python 2 EOL is 2020: https://pythonclock.org/

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2018-01-08 12:08 GMT-05:00 Tim Roberts timr@probo.com:

Donn Ingle wrote:

A January bump for the news about wxPython 4 on Linux repos. Is there

a chance?

I worry because Python 2 is going to be dead very soon…

I doubt it. Rumors of Python 2’s demise have been reported for the

entire 10 years of Python 3’s existence. I certainly don’t see any

slacking off in Python 2 development. It is a fascinating study, and it

shows just how useful and solid Python 2 was.

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Use virtualenv !

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El 9 ene. 2018 04:50, “Donn Ingle” donn.ingle@gmail.com escribió:

I’ve visited that page ( https://wxpython.org/pages/downloads/ ) and shied-away from an install for a few reasons: I don’t want to damage wxPy 3.x as it’s installed now; and the instructions confuse me. (I don’t know what manylinux1 is, etc.)

I figured if I was confused by it, then users of my app would not be enthusiastic either.

This makes me wonder at the best ways to start a 3.x → 4.x upgrade of my app. I’ll start a new thread.

Thanks,

/d

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On 8 January 2018 at 20:56, Dietmar Schwertberger maillist@schwertberger.de wrote:

You can install Phoenix from Pip now, you dont need any prebuild package.
On 1/8/2018 6:28 PM, Mario Lacunza wrote:

When doing so, please be aware that Pip does not find the Linux binaries by default and tries to build from source instead.

See the section “Yes, we have Linux Wheels. Sort of.” on the download page.

Regards,

Dietmar

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Mario, what’s that link apropos too?

It does support that Python 2 is history in 2020. (This doesn’t give me a lot of time to upgrade to wxPython 4, as I can only code for a small portion in a year.)

/d

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What about click in the first link in that page?

https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0373/#id2

Enviado desde mi celular LG

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El 8 ene. 2018 23:06, “Rufus Smith” rufusvsmith@gmail.com escribió:

I looked at that pythonclock.org link, but there is no indication it is an official site.

On Jan 8, 2018, at 12:25 PM, Mario Lacunza mlacunza@gmail.com wrote:

Its offcial now, Python 2 EOL is 2020: https://pythonclock.org/

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2018-01-08 12:08 GMT-05:00 Tim Roberts timr@probo.com:

Donn Ingle wrote:

A January bump for the news about wxPython 4 on Linux repos. Is there

a chance?

I worry because Python 2 is going to be dead very soon…

I doubt it. Rumors of Python 2’s demise have been reported for the

entire 10 years of Python 3’s existence. I certainly don’t see any

slacking off in Python 2 development. It is a fascinating study, and it

shows just how useful and solid Python 2 was.

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Okay, thanks. I have heard of it, but never used it. Thanks.

/d

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Use virtualenv !

Enviado desde mi celular LG

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El 9 ene. 2018 04:50, “Donn Ingle” donn.ingle@gmail.com escribió:

I’ve visited that page ( https://wxpython.org/pages/downloads/ ) and shied-away from an install for a few reasons: I don’t want to damage wxPy 3.x as it’s installed now; and the instructions confuse me. (I don’t know what manylinux1 is, etc.)

I figured if I was confused by it, then users of my app would not be enthusiastic either.

This makes me wonder at the best ways to start a 3.x → 4.x upgrade of my app. I’ll start a new thread.

Thanks,

/d

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On 8 January 2018 at 20:56, Dietmar Schwertberger maillist@schwertberger.de wrote:

You can install Phoenix from Pip now, you dont need any prebuild package.
On 1/8/2018 6:28 PM, Mario Lacunza wrote:

When doing so, please be aware that Pip does not find the Linux binaries by default and tries to build from source instead.

See the section “Yes, we have Linux Wheels. Sort of.” on the download page.

Regards,

Dietmar

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I’ve learned the hard way to not give dates and usually just say that it will be released when it’s ready. It does feel like it’s getting close however. The project is really too big and understaffed to shoot for a perfect release, but when it feels like it’s good enough for most people then that’s when I start considering making a release.

···

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Scott,

That would be grand!

I am sure it will be good to start facing the teething troubles of the process sooner than later.

(I shall have to figure out how to keep both versions apart somehow as I start the 3 → 4 conversion. Eek!)

Do you have any news from Robin et al. re a release date? (Should I join the dev list instead and ask there?)

Robin Dunn

Software Craftsman

There it was, right in front of my face!

I must have been multitasking the first time I looked there.

Sorry about that.

Thanks, Mario!

···

El 8 ene. 2018 23:06, “Rufus Smith” rufusvsmith@gmail.com escribió:

I looked at that pythonclock.org link, but there is no indication it is an official site.

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2018-01-08 12:08 GMT-05:00 Tim Roberts timr@probo.com:

Donn Ingle wrote:

A January bump for the news about wxPython 4 on Linux repos. Is there

a chance?

I worry because Python 2 is going to be dead very soon…

I doubt it. Rumors of Python 2’s demise have been reported for the

entire 10 years of Python 3’s existence. I certainly don’t see any

slacking off in Python 2 development. It is a fascinating study, and it

shows just how useful and solid Python 2 was.

Tim Roberts, timr@probo.com

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