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It's not quite the same thing but you can send a command to the list and
it will mail back to you a message with whatever message or range of
messages that you request. For example:

    wxpython-users-get.13900_13955@lists.wxwindows.org

should send you all the messages so far for November.

(a) how do I know the magic numbers there?
    Can't I just say something like get.November?
(b) What format? From past experience with qmail,
    this is a whole bunch of individual messages -
    definitely *not* what I want.
(c) I don't want a mail interaction, I want FTP/HTTP
    so I can schedule it.

Please can a downloadable mbox for each month be made available, as
before!

I'll see what I can convince SunSite to do. It may have to be one big
mbox instead of monthly ones.

That's useless. The download is too big. And I have most of it already. If they won't do monthly ones, don't bother on my account.

All the other qmail lists I'm on have dreadful archive facilities, as well. I don't know if it's a feature of qmail, or unrelated, but it's very consistent. From my (user's) point of view, mailman lists are *far* better.

Oh, well, I guess you're not likely to change back. If there are no monthly archives any more, I'll survive. But it's a shame :frowning:

Paul.

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From: Robin Dunn [mailto:robin@alldunn.com]

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(b) What format? From past experience with qmail,
    this is a whole bunch of individual messages -
    definitely *not* what I want.

FWIW, there is a utility, maildir2mbox, that can convert all those
individual messages into an mbox format. I can provide more details if
anyone's interested, but you'd need the Maildir first in order to convert
it.

All the other qmail lists I'm on have dreadful archive
facilities, as well. I don't know if it's a feature of qmail, or
unrelated, but it's very consistent. From my (user's) point of
view, mailman lists are *far* better.

It's actually a feature of ezmlm, the most common qmail based mailing list
manager. I don't believe it was really built to be pretty, but it
definitely is fast. Myself, I wouldn't necessarily call the archive
facilities "dreadful", but they are definitely less than intuitive if you're
used to mailman and are not familiar with qmail's addressing concepts.

-D

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Actually, now that I think about it...it would be fairly easy to script
this...have an email account on a qmail based mail server, and just
subscribe that account to the list. Have a cron job that runs at midnight
on the first of the month, and convert the entire "new" directory under the
Maildir into an mbox, delete the old mails, and move the mbox file into
~/public_html, or somewhere that it could be reached via FTP or http.

A simple bash (or Python!) script in crontab would do it. I'll volunteer to
help if anyone can provide an account on a qmail server with bash access.
I'd do it on my own, but I'm sort of between servers right now (long
story...former employer, etc.).

-D

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> -----Original Message-----
> (b) What format? From past experience with qmail,
> this is a whole bunch of individual messages -
> definitely *not* what I want.

FWIW, there is a utility, maildir2mbox, that can convert all those
individual messages into an mbox format. I can provide more details if
anyone's interested, but you'd need the Maildir first in order to convert
it.

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Moore, Paul wrote:
> From: Robin Dunn [mailto:robin@alldunn.com]
>
>> It's not quite the same thing but you can send a command to the
>> list and it will mail back to you a message with whatever message
>> or range of messages that you request. For example:
>>
>> wxpython-users-get.13900_13955@lists.wxwindows.org
>>
>> should send you all the messages so far for November.
>
> (a) how do I know the magic numbers there?

From looking at the archive via the web, I guess.

> Can't I just say something like get.November?

Not that I know of. The archive is is stored in groups of 100 messages
each, maybe there is a way to specify the group...

> (b) What format? From past experience with qmail, this is a whole
> bunch of individual messages - definitely *not* what I want.

Currently yes. We are looking into changing the digest format to be one
big message like before and I expect that this will carry over to the
get command as well.

> (c) I don't want a mail interaction, I want FTP/HTTP so I can
> schedule it.

I understand.

>
>>> Please can a downloadable mbox for each month be made available,
>>> as before!
>>
>> I'll see what I can convince SunSite to do. It may have to be one
>> big mbox instead of monthly ones.
>
> That's useless. The download is too big. And I have most of it
> already. If they won't do monthly ones, don't bother on my account.

I have an idea that may work for you. I'll check with Sunsite if it's possible and then let you know if it is.

>
> All the other qmail lists I'm on have dreadful archive facilities, as
> well. I don't know if it's a feature of qmail, or unrelated, but it's
> very consistent. From my (user's) point of view, mailman lists are
> *far* better.
>
> Oh, well, I guess you're not likely to change back. If there are no
> monthly archives any more, I'll survive. But it's a shame :frowning:

I like MailMan better too, but SunSite doesn't and they were the ones offering us a server.

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--
Robin Dunn
Software Craftsman
http://wxPython.org Java give you jitters? Relax with wxPython!

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Dave Kelly wrote:

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-----Original Message-----
(b) What format? From past experience with qmail,
   this is a whole bunch of individual messages -
   definitely *not* what I want.

FWIW, there is a utility, maildir2mbox, that can convert all those
individual messages into an mbox format. I can provide more details if
anyone's interested, but you'd need the Maildir first in order to convert
it.

Actually, now that I think about it...it would be fairly easy to script
this...have an email account on a qmail based mail server, and just
subscribe that account to the list. Have a cron job that runs at midnight
on the first of the month, and convert the entire "new" directory under the
Maildir into an mbox, delete the old mails, and move the mbox file into
~/public_html, or somewhere that it could be reached via FTP or http.

A simple bash (or Python!) script in crontab would do it. I'll volunteer to
help if anyone can provide an account on a qmail server with bash access.
I'd do it on my own, but I'm sort of between servers right now (long
story...former employer, etc.).

Good idea! I think starship.python.net is running qmail now. Or maybe they just switched away from qmail, I don't remember for sure...

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Robin Dunn
Software Craftsman
http://wxPython.org Java give you jitters? Relax with wxPython!