PyCrust and wxPython

Hi!

I have just installed wxPython and try PyCrust v 0.9.5 which has the most complete call tip I have seen so far.

  1. Can I get somehow new version of it independently from wxPython? (the latest wxPython version date from May 2009)
  2. Is the wxPython in development still? Is the new version about to come?
  3. Is there an alternative GUI to wxPython concerning native look and capability?

Thanks!

Kind regards,

Neven

Hi Neven,

Hi!

I have just installed wxPython and try PyCrust v 0.9.5 which has the most
complete call tip I have seen so far.

1. Can I get somehow new version of it independently from wxPython? (the
latest wxPython version date from May 2009)

I'm pretty sure PyCrust depends on wx...

2. Is the wxPython in development still? Is the new version about to come?

Yes, it's in active development. I don't know what the release
schedule looks like, but Robin (the creator/maintainer of wx) has been
hinting that a new one will drop soon.

3. Is there an alternative GUI to wxPython concerning native look and
capability?

As I recall, pyQT and Tkinter are using native widgets wherever
possible. IDLE is made with Tkinter, so you might look at it if that's
all you need.

Thanks!

Kind regards,

Neven

Welcome to the wxPython world!

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On Feb 10, 5:05 am, Neven Goršić <neven.gor...@gmail.com> wrote:

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3. Is there an alternative GUI to wxPython concerning native look and
capability?

As I recall, pyQT and Tkinter are using native widgets wherever
possible.

not really -- QT draws its own, and Tk does mostly too, though there is some effort to emulate th LnF. If you want native and cross platform, wx is it.

-Chris

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Well, that's weird. Every time I try to tell people that Tk doesn't do
native on c.l.py, I get flamed by people saying that it does. I
honestly don't care since I don't use them, but it's weird.

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On Feb 10, 11:32 am, Christopher Barker <Chris.Bar...@noaa.gov> wrote:

>> 3. Is there an alternative GUI to wxPython concerning native look and
>> capability?

> As I recall, pyQT and Tkinter are using native widgets wherever
> possible.

not really -- QT draws its own, and Tk does mostly too, though there is
some effort to emulate th LnF. If you want native and cross platform, wx
is it.

-Chris

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Mike Driscoll

Blog: http://blog.pythonlibrary.org

PyCon 2010 Atlanta Feb 19-21 http://us.pycon.org/

Mike Driscoll wrote:

Well, that's weird. Every time I try to tell people that Tk doesn't do
native on c.l.py, I get flamed by people saying that it does. I
honestly don't care since I don't use them, but it's weird.

Well, I suppose it depends on your definition of native. IN the early days, TK drew all its own widgets with X calls. When ported to non-X platforms, it used an X emulation layer, and so looked exactly the same on all platforms. Since then, much progress has been made, and TK apps look pretty darn good on windows:

I still don't think it's nearly as native as wx, I think they are emulating, rather than using, the native widgets.

On *nix, it's not GTK, though whether GTK is native depends on who you talk to.

On The mac, it looks OK, but not really all that native.

As for QT, I'm pretty sure it draws all it's own widgets from scratch, though it does a pretty good job of having native-looking themes. Still, the QT apps I've used don't even use the native File Open dialog on OS-X, which is really pretty painful.

-Chris

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Thank you Mike and Chris for your informations and for welcome to the wxPython world ! :slight_smile:

Neven

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On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Christopher Barker Chris.Barker@noaa.gov wrote:

Mike Driscoll wrote:

Well, that’s weird. Every time I try to tell people that Tk doesn’t do

native on c.l.py, I get flamed by people saying that it does. I

honestly don’t care since I don’t use them, but it’s weird.

Well, I suppose it depends on your definition of native. IN the early days, TK drew all its own widgets with X calls. When ported to non-X platforms, it used an X emulation layer, and so looked exactly the same on all platforms. Since then, much progress has been made, and TK apps look pretty darn good on windows:

http://wiki.tcl.tk/9485

I still don’t think it’s nearly as native as wx, I think they are emulating, rather than using, the native widgets.

On *nix, it’s not GTK, though whether GTK is native depends on who you talk to.

On The mac, it looks OK, but not really all that native.

As for QT, I’m pretty sure it draws all it’s own widgets from scratch, though it does a pretty good job of having native-looking themes. Still, the QT apps I’ve used don’t even use the native File Open dialog on OS-X, which is really pretty painful.

-Chris

Christopher Barker, Ph.D.

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NOAA/NOS/OR&R (206) 526-6959 voice

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PyCrust is part of wxPython, so they are released together, although you can always get a copy of the current code from Subversion. (However there has only been a few changes to the PyCrust code since the last release that I remember.)

Also there is a patch implementing some significant enhancements to PyCrust that I am reviewing that may make it into the next release. If you'd like to take a look at it go here: wxTrac has been migrated to GitHub Issues - wxWidgets

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On 2/10/10 3:05 AM, Neven Goršić wrote:

Hi!

I have just installed wxPython and try PyCrust v 0.9.5 which has the
most complete call tip I have seen so far.

1. Can I get somehow new version of it independently from wxPython? (the
latest wxPython version date from May 2009)

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