Hello,
Who would agree or could even imagine to contribute to such a project?
my free time just went down the drain last week with a major project landing in my lap but I will try to help... even if it is only testing the stuff on windows.
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I like the styled text control except for not supporting virtual spaces;
this means jumping the cursor while moving up/down the lines.
It is very powerful yet, but it could be
not everybody wants that (virtual spaces) 
It would be wonderfull, if some people would work together for one project.
It would be even beter if someone starts it
We could create a new project on sourceforge or berlios.
what does it need:
a catchy name:
wxidle (there was already a project on sf)
wxpyidle (to long word?)
pycrust2
pycrust+
well maybe I'm to picky but those names are not all that great.
I've wanted to start a project like this myself... but unfortunately it was just a thought in a free afternoon... and that is what it remained.
I did manage to set-up an account at sf.net (stupid me, I've started with small details rather than code)
http://ucode.sourceforge.net/
order of thought:
Apple->XCode->Ubuntu->UCode-> U Code -> U Should Code the darn thing instead of playing with sourceforge.
I'm in a dilemma, because I'm also a member of DrPython, which
has the aim to support all the needs of a newcomer or advanced (wx)Python programer,
and so there is again the feeling of reinventing the wheel.
reinventing the wheel is as bad as it might sound.
DrPython can/could fulfill most of the needs; sophisticated editor, prompt, plugins and
a powerful mechanism to add new plugins and scripts.
copy&paste&improve
But I think of a smaller (at least at the beginning) app, which is shipped
as a kind of standard or starting shell/editor system.
think PyPE (I used to love that small app in the 2.4 days)
So my questions:
Do most people agree to this (creating a new "idle") or not?
no one should stop you following your dreams
Do you have any ideas/wishes/feature requests, which are not covered in
any wxPython Editor/App/Gui environment.
just implement the best of everything, and that should be enough
Who could imagine to contribute for such a project?
I could envisage a very open project
(everybody can check in changes)
and some experienced programers (Project Managers) can correct/clean/improve the sources.
this is asking for trouble... a very relaxed system of becoming a developer should be enough (first send us a patch then we'll send you CVS write access
@Andr茅:
I think that a *really nice* wxpython based app that does this ... and
then some is spe (Stani Python Editor).Yes, spe is nice and quite interesting. What I don't like is the entanglement with
this (for me strange) "Blender" stuff.
that never hurted you, hasn't it?
a lot more people will benefit if you try to refactor py, it would be
challenging BUT it would also bring a lot of satisfaction when doneYes, at a starting point, one could adopt much of the code.
as for editing... I've said it before... someone should refactor PythonSTC
from the demo to a full editor, something equivalent to what SciTE can do,like DrPython
SciTE is closer to an editor... it does more with less fuss...
maybe split the code into several classes, like one for visual appearance,
one for behaviour(how it reacts to keyboard combinations) who knows...
maybe if it is done *CLEAR* enough people will start using it
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more on the above:
Eclipse has THE BEST component decoupling I've seen...
If someone could implement a Framework like that in wxpython it would be great.
some links:
http://www.darronschall.com/weblog/archives/000113.cfm
http://atomicobject.com/media/files/PresenterFirst.pdf
Maybe is just me but I have the feeling that very few people are aware of Design Patterns.
路路路
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:49:34 +0300, Franz Steinh盲usler <franz.steinhaeusler@gmx.at> wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 21:04:07 +0200, Franz Steinh盲usler > <franz.steinhaeusler@gmx.at> wrote: