IDE/Debugger recommendations

Hi,

What's the recommended IDE to use for wxPython development? I'm trialling
WingIDE but find it rather quirky (I'm a die-hard MSW user).

I looked at Visual Python at
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Downloads/VisualPython/ but as it
required Active Python I wasn't sure if this supported wxPython.

Sorry if this is asked frequently - there isn't an FAQ set up yet for this
mailing list according to the mail manager.

Hugh Gibson
SD&C

Hi Hugh,
I never used Visual Python, but currently I'm working with ActivePyhton
(www.activestate.com) and wxPython. They itegrate well.

-Corrado

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Hi,

What's the recommended IDE to use for wxPython development? I'm trialling
WingIDE but find it rather quirky (I'm a die-hard MSW user).

I looked at Visual Python at
ActiveState Community - Boosting coder and team productivity with ready-to-use open source languages and tools. but as it
required Active Python I wasn't sure if this supported wxPython.

Sorry if this is asked frequently - there isn't an FAQ set up yet for this
mailing list according to the mail manager.

Hugh Gibson
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Anything works as long as you don't run your apps
from within the IDE... :wink:

This means that you can't use the builtin GUI debugger,
but 1) with the tracebacks in Python, I never use
debuggers a lot, and 2) my experience is that even the
IDE's that can run wxPython programs have problem running
them in a meaningful way in the debugger.

Seriously I don't find this to be any major limitation,
but if you do need it, you need to find something that
runs python programs in a separate process.

I've used PythonWin a few years now, and none of the other
products I tested felt good enough to make me switch.

I've tried ActiveState's other IDE--Komodo, and in my
opinion it was so slow with a Duron 700MHz/256MB/Win 2000
that is was useless.

Has anyone tried HAPDebugger for development? It was
designed be Humoungus (sp?) Games, and used to develop
their new game Backyard Hockey. I'm pretty sure they
don't use wxPython, but since they develop games using
full screen mode, it works as a remote IDE and debugger.
Since it can debug programs on a different machine, I
imagine it can do it between processes in one machine as
well. Being build for inhouse use, I guess it's not so
polished for ease of use though.

Personally I hope I can avoid "upgrading" Visual Studio
to the .NET version, so I haven't looked at plugins for
that, which is what Visual Python is.

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At 11:46 2002-12-04 +0000, Hugh Gibson wrote:

What's the recommended IDE to use for wxPython development? I'm trialling
WingIDE but find it rather quirky (I'm a die-hard MSW user).

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Unless you try to run a wxPython program from within
the IDE (PythonWin) that comes with ActivePython?

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At 12:43 2002-12-04 +0100, Corrado Santoro wrote:

I never used Visual Python, but currently I'm working with ActivePyhton
(www.activestate.com) and wxPython. They itegrate well.

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http://www.thinkware.se/ mailto:magnus@thinkware.se

I have been using Wing with wxPython for about 18 months and
find it indispensable. It will even cooperate with VC++ so you can
debug Python and the wxWindows C++ code together. Give
it some time...

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Subject: [wxPython-users] IDE/Debugger recommendations

Hi,

What's the recommended IDE to use for wxPython development? I'm trialling
WingIDE but find it rather quirky (I'm a die-hard MSW user).

I looked at Visual Python at
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/Downloads/VisualPython/ but as it
required Active Python I wasn't sure if this supported wxPython.

Sorry if this is asked frequently - there isn't an FAQ set up yet for this
mailing list according to the mail manager.

Hugh Gibson
SD&C

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Hugh Gibson wrote:

Hi,

What's the recommended IDE to use for wxPython development? I'm trialling WingIDE but find it rather quirky (I'm a die-hard MSW user).

Boa's debugger is getting quite nice. I tested the Boa CVS version debugger with wxPython CVS version the other day and didn't have any problems.

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Robin Dunn
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http://wxPython.org Java give you jitters? Relax with wxPython!

First of all, you need to have CVS installed, see
http://www.cvshome.org/

Then you do (I suppose these lines might wrap. Three lines only!)

cd some_appropriate_directory

cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.Boa-Constructor.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/boa-constructor login

cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.Boa-Constructor.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/boa-constructor co boa

This creates a new directory called 'boa'

cd boa

python boa.py

There you are!

To update later, just go to the boa directory and do:

cvs update

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At 12:13 2002-12-06 -0800, John Hopkins wrote:

As a CVS newbie, where can I find instructions on getting, installing and
using the latest version of Boa from CVS? I took a look around a few weeks
ago, but couldn't even figure out what to download, much less what to do
with it when I get it ...

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Thanks, That did the trick!

Now I feel a little less helpless when I see comments like, "fixed in CVS"
...

John Hopkins

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At 12:13 2002-12-06 -0800, John Hopkins wrote:
>As a CVS newbie, where can I find instructions on getting, installing and
>using the latest version of Boa from CVS? I took a look around a few

weeks

>ago, but couldn't even figure out what to download, much less what to do
>with it when I get it ...

First of all, you need to have CVS installed, see
http://www.cvshome.org/

Then you do (I suppose these lines might wrap. Three lines only!)

cd some_appropriate_directory

cvs
-d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.Boa-Constructor.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/boa-cons

tructor

login

cvs -z3
-d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.Boa-Constructor.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/boa-cons

tructor

co boa

This creates a new directory called 'boa'

cd boa

python boa.py

There you are!

To update later, just go to the boa directory and do:

cvs update

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