Estimated PyPI package release date?

Hi,

I’d like to know if there is such a thing as a planned release date for wxPython-Phoenix as a PyPI package, so that everyone can install it using pip install wxpython-phoenix.
If there is not such a date, will there ever be one?

I wanted to use it for a hobby project, but compiling everything and then running into new problems doing so seems such a hassle, so I’d like to know, if I can simply wait it out, until everything runs smoothly ; )

You can already, only the command is a bit longer, see:
http://wiki.wxpython.org/How%20to%20install%20wxPython#Installing_wxPython-Phoenix_using_pip

Werner

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On 8/14/2015 1:12, Zelphir Kaltstahl wrote:

Hi,

I'd like to know if there is such a thing as a planned release date for wxPython-Phoenix as a PyPI package, so that everyone can install it using pip install wxpython-phoenix.

Well yes, I’ve seen that, but it only seems to work in a small number of cases and not on my OS.
I’ve already created a topic here and a question on Stackoverflow regarding the issue, so I was wondering if you plan to move it to the officiel package index on a specific date : )

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On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 7:39:12 AM UTC+2, werner wrote:

On 8/14/2015 1:12, Zelphir Kaltstahl wrote:

Hi,

I’d like to know if there is such a thing as a planned release date
for wxPython-Phoenix as a PyPI package, so that everyone can install
it using pip install wxpython-phoenix.

You can already, only the command is a bit longer, see:

http://wiki.wxpython.org/How%20to%20install%20wxPython#Installing_wxPython-Phoenix_using_pip

Werner

Well yes, I've seen that, but it only seems to work in a small number of cases and not on my OS.
I've already created a topic here and a question on Stackoverflow regarding the issue

I see, and it looks like Robin gave you some tips on how to resolve the issue. Whenever it is resolved it would be good to do a wiki page on how to install in a virtual env.

, so I was wondering if you plan to move it to the officiel package index on a specific date : )

Having an official release and/or moving the stuff to PyPi will not resolve the issue you have.:slight_smile:

Werner

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On 8/14/2015 9:12, Zelphir Kaltstahl wrote:

I am aware of that. However, that’s not the question. I want to know if there are such plans.
I am out of ideas regarding how to fix my pip install issue, so I’ll hope for better times. Also other people can’t be expected to compile wxPython-Phoenix themselves only to use my application, if that’s already a difficult problem for me, so I think I’ll simply wait it out.

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On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 10:34:57 AM UTC+2, werner wrote:

Having an official release and/or moving the stuff to PyPi will not
resolve the issue you have.:slight_smile:

I am aware of that. However, that's not the question.

I got that:), but my point still stands, don't expect the official release to fix that, if no one worked on it before.

Could you outline the steps you do to install in a virtenv, I will give it a try on my Linux Mint system when I get a moment.

I want to know if there are such plans.

My understanding was that it was always the goal of wxPython Phoenix to get to an official release and it should also replace the classic version at some point. Not sure if anyone has a good estimate when that will happen, the more people helping out on it and resolving issues the sooner it will be.

I am out of ideas regarding how to fix my pip install issue, so I'll hope for better times. Also other people can't be expected to compile wxPython-Phoenix themselves only to use my application, if that's already a difficult problem for me, so I think I'll simply wait it out.

I distribute my application (currently only on Windows) using py2exe, so the user only installs my installer and it all works. Depending on your target user you might need to look into something similar.

Werner

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On 8/14/2015 22:59, Zelphir Kaltstahl wrote:

You ask the same question again and again. Let Robin, Werner and others do their work. When wxPython-Phoenix is ready there will be a message.

Egon

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On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 1:12:37 AM UTC+2, Zelphir Kaltstahl wrote:

Hi,

I’d like to know if there is such a thing as a planned release date for wxPython-Phoenix as a PyPI package, so that everyone can install it using pip install wxpython-phoenix.
If there is not such a date, will there ever be one?

I wanted to use it for a hobby project, but compiling everything and then running into new problems doing so seems such a hassle, so I’d like to know, if I can simply wait it out, until everything runs smoothly ; )

@Egon: Yes, it’s because no one answered it, but I am giving up on getting an answer now (for the estimated release date question) : )
The stackoverflow question is still not really solved and this is the only channel I found, where I could get more information on the issue. If I can’t compile or install something, that is supposed to work out of the box, provided that the dependencies listed on the dev website are installed, should I simply toss it away and tell no one about it, including the devs? Well, then no one would ever notice the issue, except if someone else tells the devs. So I am actually helping the development process here, not slowing it.
Thanks for the py2exe suggestion, I’ll take a look at it when needed.

I didn’t know that py2exe fixes this sort of dependency stuff for distributing applications. I thought you’d still have to have the dependencies installed.

Do you close topics on here? Haven’t used Google Groups before, this was an exception. If so, I think this is closable now.

Regarding my SO question: If anyone has more ideas, I am still somewhat willing to try them and share the results, maybe even write a wiki page about it.

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On Saturday, August 15, 2015 at 11:31:00 AM UTC+2, Egon Frerich wrote:

On Friday, August 14, 2015 at 1:12:37 AM UTC+2, Zelphir Kaltstahl wrote:

Hi,

I’d like to know if there is such a thing as a planned release date for wxPython-Phoenix as a PyPI package, so that everyone can install it using pip install wxpython-phoenix.
If there is not such a date, will there ever be one?

I wanted to use it for a hobby project, but compiling everything and then running into new problems doing so seems such a hassle, so I’d like to know, if I can simply wait it out, until everything runs smoothly ; )

You ask the same question again and again. Let Robin, Werner and others do their work. When wxPython-Phoenix is ready there will be a message.

Egon

@Egon: Yes, it's because no one answered it, but I am giving up on getting an answer now (for the estimated release date question) : )
The stackoverflow question is still not really solved and this is the only channel I found, where I could get more information on the issue.

Can you let me know what steps you did to install wxPython in the virtualenv, when I get some time I will give it a try on my Linux Mint 17 box.

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Thanks for the py2exe suggestion, I'll take a look at it when needed.

I didn't know that py2exe fixes this sort of dependency stuff for distributing applications. I thought you'd still have to have the dependencies installed.

Yes, on your dev system you have to have all dependencies and then you use py2exe, or another freezer (pyinstaller, cxfreeze ...) to create a 'frozen' version of your application which you give to your end users. If you want to further improve on that you then use e.g. InnoSetup to bring it all together into a single installer which your end user can run and it installs the stuff for them.

Do you close topics on here? Haven't used Google Groups before, this was an exception. If so, I think this is closable now.

No, you do not close a topic/thread here.

Regarding my SO question: If anyone has more ideas, I am still somewhat willing to try them and share the results, maybe even write a wiki page about it.

As mentioned above I will give it a go when I have some time, probably in about 2 weeks.

Werner

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On 8/15/2015 12:58, Zelphir Kaltstahl wrote:

Here is my SO post, which describes the steps I’ve taken to install it using pip:

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On Monday, August 17, 2015 at 5:25:01 PM UTC+2, werner wrote:

On 8/15/2015 12:58, Zelphir Kaltstahl wrote:

@Egon: Yes, it’s because no one answered it, but I am giving up on
getting an answer now (for the estimated release date question) : )

The stackoverflow question is still not really solved and this is the
only channel I found, where I could get more information on the issue.

Can you let me know what steps you did to install wxPython in the
virtualenv, when I get some time I will give it a try on my Linux Mint
17 box.

Thanks for the py2exe suggestion, I’ll take a look at it when needed.

I didn’t know that py2exe fixes this sort of dependency stuff for
distributing applications. I thought you’d still have to have the
dependencies installed.

Yes, on your dev system you have to have all dependencies and then you
use py2exe, or another freezer (pyinstaller, cxfreeze …) to create a
‘frozen’ version of your application which you give to your end users.

If you want to further improve on that you then use e.g. InnoSetup to
bring it all together into a single installer which your end user can
run and it installs the stuff for them.

Do you close topics on here? Haven’t used Google Groups before, this
was an exception. If so, I think this is closable now.

No, you do not close a topic/thread here.

Regarding my SO question: If anyone has more ideas, I am still
somewhat willing to try them and share the results, maybe even write a
wiki page about it.

As mentioned above I will give it a go when I have some time, probably
in about 2 weeks.

Werner