Any Substitutes for wxTimeCtrl?

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I'm sorry, but I simply don't accept either the premise that
"there is no such time", or the premise that it is "confusing to
show the user such." wxDateTime, mxDateTime, and every other control
I've ever used all will format midnight as 12:00 AM, and noon
as 12:00 PM. Even the windows time control in the system tray does
so.

I further think that this is commonly understood by the world at
large

My Webster's dictionary says the p.m. means "after noon." Noon is not
after noon. There are neither any other definitions nor any
loopholes offered by my Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, 7th ed.

P.m. is an abbreviation for "post meridian". The sun is not
"post meridian" when it's on the meridian.

Even the windows time control in the system tray does so.

That would be an argument from authority if MS was an authority.
Try looking at the file properties in Windows NT to see the last time
that a file was accessed. It's always right now. Great.

The authority on time where I live is the US National Institute of
Standards and Technology:

http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/general/misc.htm#Anchor-57026

Which says quite clearly that:

"The terms 12 a.m. and 12 p.m. are wrong and should not be used."

Time in England, where wx comes from, is explained here:

  http://GreenwichMeanTime.com/info/noon.htm

saying:

  "This means that 00:00 AM or 00:00 PM (or 12:00 AM and
  12:00 PM) have no meaning."

I'm doing educational software, and I must not be a bad example
to the students. I'm afraid that 24 hour time might not be
comfortable for them.

Al

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< snip, sarcasm on >
Nice discussion :slight_smile:
Actually where I come from (europe, not GB) 24 hour time format is used.
AFAIK the whole am/pm thing originated in England, as all the other weird
measurements too (what's wrong about the metric system ?)
BTW: it's physically not correct anyways, since the sun is normally not in the
meridian when it's noon. Believe it or not, the sun doesn't care what we call
it :-))

If you do educational software you should consider bringing people up to the
metric and 24 hour system, since that's what it's going to be a couple years
down the road. Military and scientific institutions use those systems for
quite a while now (or why do you think a medication has 12mg of a substance
instead of 24/756 ounces ?? )

And please mention that black and white are no colors - as they are commonly
assumed to be.

< clonk, sarcasm off >

Just take the MaskedTextCtrl and edit the time handling to whatever you think
is the right thing. I for my part only write programs that use military time,
aka 24 hour format. Always correct and 20:00 hours is Start Trek time :slight_smile:

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On Saturday 07 June 2003 06:44 pm, achrist@easystreet.com wrote:

> I'm sorry, but I simply don't accept either the premise that
> "there is no such time", or the premise that it is "confusing to
> show the user such." wxDateTime, mxDateTime, and every other control
> I've ever used all will format midnight as 12:00 AM, and noon
> as 12:00 PM. Even the windows time control in the system tray does
> so.
>
> I further think that this is commonly understood by the world at
> large

My Webster's dictionary says the p.m. means "after noon." Noon is not
after noon. There are neither any other definitions nor any
loopholes offered by my Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary, 7th ed.

P.m. is an abbreviation for "post meridian". The sun is not
"post meridian" when it's on the meridian.

> Even the windows time control in the system tray does so.

That would be an argument from authority if MS was an authority.
Try looking at the file properties in Windows NT to see the last time
that a file was accessed. It's always right now. Great.

The authority on time where I live is the US National Institute of
Standards and Technology:

http://www.boulder.nist.gov/timefreq/general/misc.htm#Anchor-57026

Which says quite clearly that:

"The terms 12 a.m. and 12 p.m. are wrong and should not be used."

Time in England, where wx comes from, is explained here:

  http://GreenwichMeanTime.com/info/noon.htm

saying:

  "This means that 00:00 AM or 00:00 PM (or 12:00 AM and
  12:00 PM) have no meaning."

I'm doing educational software, and I must not be a bad example
to the students. I'm afraid that 24 hour time might not be
comfortable for them.

Al

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