20060106 test build uploaded

Robin wrote:

> Okay, I've removed all the Ctrl-Alt accelerators.

Fine.

> I didn't replace them
> with something else because I didn't feel that they were things that
> needed accelerators anyway. I got the feeling that they were given
> accelerators just for the sake of giving everything in the menu an
> accelerator, not becuase they would typically be used often while
> typing in the shell.

I agree on this.

> Also, I've left the Ctrl-[=] for zooming in place in case people are
> used to using it, and have added Ctrl-numpad-+/- to also send the
> dispatcher signals so they can be used for the same functionality of
> changing the zoom for all windows.

> Does that take care of the non-U.S. keyboard issues in yCrust/PyShell?

No problem with the equal sign on a Swiss French kbd. I get it with
a Shift modifier, Shift+0.

The second part of your sentence is not clear to me. Did you *add*
Ctrl-numpad-+/- or did you *replace* Ctrl-[] with Ctrl-numpad-+/-.
The latter case is ok, the former still causes an issue.
Just forget this remark, if you choose the "replace" way.

Side note. There are quite a lot of editors based on Scintilla (SciTE, Crimson, ...). Users of these editores are comfortable with Ctrl-numpad-+/-. Ctrl+= may be redundant.

Jean-Michel Fauth, Switzerland

jmf wrote:

Robin wrote:

> Also, I've left the Ctrl-[=] for zooming in place in case people are
> used to using it, and have added Ctrl-numpad-+/- to also send the
> dispatcher signals so they can be used for the same functionality of
> changing the zoom for all windows.

> Does that take care of the non-U.S. keyboard issues in yCrust/PyShell?

No problem with the equal sign on a Swiss French kbd. I get it with
a Shift modifier, Shift+0.

The second part of your sentence is not clear to me. Did you *add*
Ctrl-numpad-+/- or did you *replace* Ctrl- with Ctrl-numpad-+/-.
The latter case is ok, the former still causes an issue.

No, I just added. I guess I don't understand the issue, can the user not type a [ if the shell is doing something with Ctrl-[?

Just forget this remark, if you choose the "replace" way.

Side note. There are quite a lot of editors based on Scintilla (SciTE, Crimson, ...). Users of these editores are comfortable with Ctrl-numpad-+/-. Ctrl+= may be redundant.

Agreed, but if somebody is already comfortable with Ctrl-[ and ] in PyShell and they suddenly disappear... Another example, on my laptop I have to hit an extra key to get the numpad + and -, and there is no numpad /.

But if there is a real problem with Ctrl-[ and ] then I have no problem getting rid of them.

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